Wed, 19/05/2010 - 20:08 — annak
Last week we featured a news story detailing how business groups think that business TV holds little relevance for small firms.
What do you think? Do you think we can learn from programmes like Dragons Den? Do you think shows like The Apprentice and Junior Apprentice are a good idea?
Please share your thoughts below.
Dragon's Den is entertaining enough and I suppose educational for that very small segment of business where entrepreners require investment. I do like that the dragons challenge people over their numbers and expectations - that would be education for someone trying to get into business.
But The Apprentice is a total disaster for British business. I'll start by saying that you couldn't pay me enough to work for Alan Sugar - the way he's portrayed as behaving is shameful and not at all what I would consider good management. There's rarely a single apprentice that I'd consider employing. I see more capable, more organised, less annoying people every day looking for work. Why can't Alan Sugar get decent job applicants? Oh... right... Alan Sugar.
Seriously, though, I worry that shows like The Apprentice tell young people that to be successful they need to be arrogant, pushy fakers who are only good at selling. Yes, successful sales people are often arrogant pushy fakers but there are so many OTHER important roles in business besides sales. The world of business portrayed by The Apprentice is a million miles from that of 99.9% of small businesses.
I'm a small business owner. I treat the folks that work for my company with respect and courtesy.
I was going to add this morning that at the end of the day this is all about the 15 mins of fame and nothing else. For a show like this to have any value then they need to show more of the back stage bits rather than the sound bites. Maybe then it would be more enlightening
I love Dragons' Den and The Apprentice, as a viewer, but as a business person I can't help thinking that they represent old business, old stereotypes and old misconceptions - that business is cut-throat; you have to be tough to get ahead; and that business people are, generally, impatient and rude!
In my life, I don't think any of that's true - and I'd like to see a business programme that better represents where business is today.
I actually think that Mary Queen of Shops is a convergence of those two things: it's entertaining, but we can also take from it lessons in our businesses.
The problem, I think, is that business is too often viewed as a separate thing to life, rather than a part of it. This is why show's like Working Lunch, I think, don't work. And how I'm more likely to learn about business from shows like Mad Men or films like Jerry Maguire and less from programming that ghettoises business into a certain time slot or stereotype.
I'm passionate about the success of my business yet I find I'm unable to watch Apprentice and Dragons Den type TV for exactly the reason mentioned above - the primary aim is entertainment. Working Lunch annoys me with its infantile, dumbed-down-TV approach. I do, however, like the Mary Portas programme for genuine business problem solving. Bring back Sir John Harvey Jones's Troublershooter I say!
Reagards, grudfuttle.
I have to say that in my personal opinion, the TV shows which represent business are not reflecting the standard everyday view of my world. They appear too focused on pitting person against person and in my busienss (IT Support and Technology Advice) I need to build relationships with people, understand their needs and demonstrate understanding. Simply going into a business and barking at people with my higher-than-thou opinion will not win me any respect or more importantly any repeat business.
The business TV channels in the place where I'm present like CNBC and others provide information related to stocks and large firms. While I don't watch them regularly, I haven't seen any specific small business related programs being telecast.
The Apprentice & Dragons Den are screened for entertainment - But if you haven't learned something then you are not watching hard enough.
Dragons den shows you an insightful look at the physological aspects of the negotiation process, valuing a business and the income multiples applied in doing so. It gives you tips into what makes a good an bad pitch. I could go on all night.
The Apprentice at some stages has given me some useful tips with interviewing, particularly when..... wait for it, they are carrying out interviews.
Maybe it's just me, but these programmes, the Hotel inspector, Gerry's Big decision etc have given me tips.
I also think they inspire!! If the objective for watching is to gain an insight to how a small business is run, then you are watching for the wrong reasons. But for terminology, even sales techniques are there if you look.
Some really good points there I think. I hadn't even thought about the implications for businesses being featured on The Apprentice challenges.
Though I agree with a lot of what you have said, I am inclined to think the programmes at least offer valuable advice to those taking part. Take, for example, our newest Expert in inafishbowl.com, Claire Young (http://www.inafishbowl.com/claire-young.html). She was a finalist in the 2008 Apprentice, and is now running her own business and offers some really good advice to our Fishbowl businesses.
Further to this, we have Ben Way (http://www.inafishbowl.com/ben-way.html) of Secret Millionaire and Rachel Elnaugh (http://www.inafishbowl.com/rachel-elnaugh.html) of Dragons' Den, both of whom offer some really valuable suggestions, as well as Imran Hakim (http://www.inafishbowl.com/imran-hakim.html) who featured in Dragons' Den pitching his idea "iTeddy".
Is it possible, then, that these programmes, at the very least, give budding entrepreneurs opportunities to go further?
Most business TV is certainly not relevant nor inspiring for small business owners. I don't see Alan Sugar as someone I want to aspire to - for either his people management or his blame culture. The Business Inspector on Five was also an unfortunate example of more blame culture and belittling all in the name of ratings.
BUT just as I was giving up on business TV, along comes Jo Malone with her supportive and inspiring stance and plenty of insights into branding. There's hope for us yet!
I've tried to generate interest with business programmes such as Working Lunch and various radio shows on behalf of small businesses and been turned down each time. The reasons for my failure are that the issues faced by small businesses, even though there are hundreds of thousands of them experiencing these issues, just aren't perceived as 'worthy' or sufficiently impactful by the media.
Problems with NI for a five-hander business isn't believed to be as worthy of airtime as BA going bust due to industrial action. When the small business sector generates so much wealth and employment, I'm still surprised that that this is the case.
On the subject of Apprentice-type programmes, I agree with other posters that these are entertainment shows. A few years ago I made it to the last 50 candidates being assessed to appear on The Apprentice and have to report that the rules of reality TV apply, not business acumen.
Kevin
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They may not be educational, but they're good for the "brand awareness" of entrepreneurialism. "Entrepreneur" isn't a word I ever heard at school, shows like this help people to realise that starting a business IS an option and that it's not all blokes in grey suits.
I watch both of these and can honestly say I've learned nothing about business!
I think, quite rightly, they are for entertainment :)
Personally, I think these TV programmes, although good entertainment (if you're that way inclined) dont really offer the reality of business and in fact are detrimental to peoples expectations.
Just like Apple says in their ads where the 'sequence has been shortened' so to has the process of doing good, sustainable business been shortened into something that doesnt reflect true business practice but merely 'mashed up' to make 60 minutes of TV 'entertaining'.
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